Clambake Episode for June 26, 2005

Here is the Bittorrent link and direct MP3 download for the EGC clambake for June 26, 2005.

I play the newest interview bit with John Mark King where he talks about his own notions of open culture and play the newest Rocket City Riot song; I talk more about open and closed culture; I talk briefly about KYOU and about grassroots podcasting; I relate the tale of seeing the Arts and Sciences open for Indigo Girls; I play a song by Paul Melancon and then one by the Gentle Readers.

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Dave Slusher is a blogger, podcaster, computer programmer, author, science fiction fan and father. Member of the Podcast Hall of Fame class of 2022.

12 thoughts on “Clambake Episode for June 26, 2005”

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  2. Bob says:


    Love your show. Don’t expend too much energy on the David Courseys of the world. I worked with him years ago at InfoWorld. His job is to have an opinion and his point of reference is corporate America and corporate IS. So when he, or someone like Mike Vizard talk, they are trying to represent that POV. Coursey got his first gig as an opinionator when Stewart Alsop got too busy to do it…not because he had any great insight. He was willing to give his opinion and someone paid him too.

    Keep it up!


  3. Griffin says:

    Hi Dave,
    I think the stuff about open and closed culture is terrific, its a brilliant observation, and its not only happening in music, its books and computer software. Maybe it started with the Open source movement, who knows, but its certainly bringing through stark changes in society. I was wondering what peoples take on the ruling by the supreme court on the Grokster case is. Isn’t it just going to hurt the RIAA even more?

    I’m relay going to have to stop steeling your music tastes, getting the stuff is difficult here though (and im not paying Itunes and the like).

    Keep Podcasting & TTFN/777^

  4. mike dunn says:

    good show dave (as always), one of my sons and i were listening to it on our way back from pa (visiting our new 3 week old lab puppy) digging the rocket city riot interview and song – which met both our tastes…

    when you mentioned the coursey stuff, that at first generated an interesting look from him, and then went in to a very fun conversation about what i’d originally written, what are the transparent motivations of some journalists and finally what a troll is…

    a dad and his 13yr son conversing about topics raised during a podcast, yup definately a loser 😉

    bob: good points, though coursey wrote his podcasting pov up in publish, aimed at the content management and web publishing crowd – but same point holds true as w/ corp it (curious if you are “the” bob from infoworld? – no need to answer)…

  5. Bob says:

    mike: not “the” bob, just a friend (and you know, hopefully, that “the” bob at infoworld today is not the bob who made Cringely what he is:

    today’s InfoWorld cringely is, gasp, often a woman…

  6. Tilted Edge says:

    Music should be free as all entertainment should be. If you came over to my house and asked me to play the piano what kind of host would I be if I demanded you pay $15.00 first? Then you say oh but that is different because musicians sell to strangers. I contend that all people are brothers. I would be quite happy to see the business side of entertainment to die. Selling entertainment is exactly like selling sex. It should be legal because you can not stop it but it is not a pretty thing to see.

  7. Tilted Edge says:

    I forgot to mention Dave that your comments on tv, all the crappy channels including wide swap made me laugh. Pull the plug on cable or et tv. Don’t pay for crap. There are so many others ways to waste time which are free.

  8. stephen page says:

    hi dave,

    the answer to your question is…yes i get paid. its my job. give me a call and we can talk.


  9. mike dunn says:

    bob: i was referring to the “inventor” bob 😉

  10. Dave, another great show. I really appreciated you providing a platform so that I could hear John Mark King’s opinion on intellectual copyright as it applies to (his) music. That’s damn cool.

    I also like your serialization of the Rocket City Riot album in your podcast. Back in 1999, a commercial classic rock station in Calgary, Alberta, Canada had a midnight program called “Headphones Only”. In it, they would play an entire album without interruption, from start to finish. (I bet you couldn’t do that today with an RIAA album in today’s climate!) I was introduced to some great music during that show. So I think your serialization innovation is way cool, too.

  11. dave says:

    Thanks, y’all. Darren, if you are digging it please go to the Rocket City Riot blog and leave him a comment so that John Mark knows he’s not wasting his time.

    Stephen, I know you are drawing a salary. I was making a rhetorical point that when you say “We can’t pay podcasters because we aren’t making money”, plenty of people involved in the station are getting paid even though you aren’t making money.

  12. C.C. says:

    This was an instant classic. Hearing his thoughts on how music should be open was refreshing. You could tell he honestly meant it and I don’t think I’ve heard any other musician with such an open opinion!

    Been a big fan for a long time Dave and this is the first time I’ve commented. Keep on rocking and doing what your doing.

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