EGC Clambake for March 20, 2007 – “Hippies and Punks”

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This is a particularly foulmouthed episode, including an F-Bomb explosion that came from some sort of anger repository I had not realized I was tapping. Be warned.

I play a song from Conconquidore Truidore; I talk about internet radio and the CARP decision and Doc Searls; I play a little clip from Garrison Keillor’s Writers Almanac; I discuss Bruce Sterling’s talk at SXSW; I talk about listening to Steve Blush on the Small World Podcast and from there launch into my theory about the similarities between hippies and punks; I briefly mention seeing Public Enemy; I play a song by the Brothers Falloon and lurch out of the room.

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7 thoughts on “EGC Clambake for March 20, 2007 – “Hippies and Punks””

  1. David Jacobs says:

    The RIAA is a f*ck machine. That’s about the best quote I have heard on a podcast maybe ever.

  2. Derek says:

    Angry Dave is always extremely quotable.

    I found your PE recollections pretty interesting. Way back in the day I went to a rap concert where the opener was NWA featuring Eazy E, the rest of the lineup included people like EPMD, Stetsasonic, and a couple of more. The headliners were Ice-T and the show closed with Public Enemy. As we were leaving we saw a couple of white guys in Public Enemy T-shirts. I remember them clearly because it had never occurred to me that white guys were even remotely interested in rap music. I always wondered what they thought about their “situation”. Now I have a little more insight.

    And is it just me or are the shows that come after a couple of failed attempts always really really good?

  3. This latest baby boom hippie rant finally prompted me to respond on my own Dicksnjanes podcast, and while I don’t expect you to listen, I do feel obliged to let you know I used a clip from your rant and said lots of nasty things about you Dave. Of course I’m still a big fan, but that doesn’t mean I have to swallow all you have to say. I am sorry my comments were more emotional than intelligent – but then that’s the fun of podcasting…

  4. dave says:

    Thanks, David. If I had thought about it more, I probably would have had a more thoughtful and less visceral thing to say, but that’s what fell out when I opened my mouth.

    Derek, I saw a lot of those bands too. I remember being knocked out by Stetsasonic because they were the first rap band I saw with a live drummer on stage. Because of my connection with the WREK rap show and friendship with DJ JD, I went to a lot of the Omni rap shows on free radio station tickets. I saw BDP, Kool Moe Dee, Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, Run DMC, EPMD, Doug E. Fresh, JJ Fad, Eric B and Rakim and I’m sure a lot of others that I am not recalling. It was always a blast. I can’t speak to the failed show thing. Honestly, I didn’t think this one was that good and I was a little worried about publishing it.

    SD, I’ll check it out. Ted Riecken emailed me about it too, so I might have started a firestorm. Just to be clear on one thing – someone in email was talking about my “strawman, stereotypical hippie” stuff. Everything I imputed to hippies were direct quotes out of that radio documentary I heard. I was not generalizing or making these things up, kids were actually saying them. Now, that doesn’t mean the documentarians didn’t pick kids with a slanted point of view or cherry pick quotes to make the hippies seem further out, but I didn’t make any of that up. I was responding to specific stimuli, specific statements I had just heard in the last week or two.

  5. Eddie Dickey says:

    In my podcast, and in consulting I always always always avoid music that falls under the auspices of the RIAA or any of their ilk. Having said that, I support internet radio and let Lynn Woolsey know what I thought of te CRB’s decision. An appointed group like the CRB has to be reigned in. Regardless of how a business mitigates risk, The CRB is a govt body and accountable to the people. This is not how I want my tax dollars spent….

  6. Chris C. says:

    Out of curiousity, I listened to the whole Bruce Sterling speech. His speaking style makes it sound like he’s essentially an incoherent gadfly, but he did have some good ideas buried in there. I especially enjoyed his rundown of the organizational points describe in another person’s paper (will need to dig that guys name up again). Conversely, I especially was revolted by his wildly uninformed take on broadcasting and the TV spectrum. I’m sure Reed Hundt is a bright guy and has some interesting ideas about what to do with the spectrum, but Mr. Sterling did just about the worst job ever of communicating that idea. Duh, lets broadcast the internet. Uh, yeah, right, do you even know what broadcast means?

    Anyway, a nice little diversion courtesy of EGC. Thanks Dave 🙂

    Oh, and if you’re still subscribed to my Eyedrum show, this month’s episode is pretty good, give it a listen. It’ll roll out on the RSS feed tomorrow after I edit it down at work.

  7. dave says:

    Eddie, preach on brother. I’m right here in the choir.

    Chris, I think “incoherent gadfly” does a good job of summing up both what I like and don’t like about Sterling’s speeches. One thing I’ve learned is that if your goal is to be a pundit, you pick your direction and roll forward like a Sherman tank. Recriminations and regrets are for pussies, pundits are less concerned with accuracy than muzzle velocity. That’s why I do such a poor job of being a pundit, because I can never eliminate the reasonable feeling that I might be wrong.

    I am still subscribed to the Eyedrum podcast. I’ve even rated it highly in AmigoFish, so maybe it is being recommended to others because of that.

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