I need to get serious again about the band of the day. I'm tired of not doing it for so long that it's more when I did it was an odd exception. I have found one! It's a local Atlanta band called The Hiss. I read about them in the Creative Loafing and checked them out. They seem to fit in that broad category of The Strokes, which is to say they are reminiscent of the same kind of simple early 70's rock. They don't have a CD out, but do have MP3s available for download. Give it a listen. downloaded TMPGEnc and started converting the AVI to MP1. That was 10 hours ago, it still has 7 to go. I'm still not sure that this thing will fit on the VCD when it is done. All in all, I'd have to say that $15 would have been a bargain compared to the pain in the ass this is. Which has been my point in all the discussions I've ever been in on this subject - despite what it may seem like, piracy is not fun. The folks who are willing to do this regularly have lots of free time (which does not have a high dollar value) and kind of enjoy all the crap that it takes. I really don't believe that we are in danger of consumers lining up to steal this stuff digitally. It's cheaper to buy it, when it is made available.